Re: Bug#652275: Guided partitioning should not offer separate /usr, /var, and /tmp partitions; leave that to manual partitioning
Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> writes:
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 03:39:37PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> writes:
>>
>> > On Sun, Dec 18, 2011 at 06:48:53PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
>> >> Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org> writes:
>> >> > spools (/var/spool/mail), large websites in the default location
>> >> > (/var/www), or large databases (/var/lib/postgresql or similar) will
>> >> > need a lot more. The same applies in reverse, when /var has space to
>> >> > spare but other partitions don't. And even experienced sysadmins find
>> >> > it painful to either resize disk partitions or create magic bind mounts
>> >> > to partitions that have space.
>> >>
>> >> lvresize, resize2fs, done
>> >
>> > Doesn't make it any less painful. (Also, don't forget the resize2fs and
>> > lvresize of some other partition first, and figuring out the appropriate
>> > amount of space to move around.) This also assumes LVM, which we don't
>> > default to.
>>
>> As I said the initial partitions should be small with free space left
>> over to grow them as needed. Most filesystems don't support shrinking,
>> not even offline so leaving free space is the only way to go.
>
> People expect that they can use all the capacity of their disk without
> having to take unusual steps like resizing partitions and filesystems.
> After installing Debian on a 1TB drive, "df -h" should say that you have
> just under 1TB of free space, not just a handful of GB.
>
>> And I think multiple partitions without lvm makes no sense as non custom
>> setup. Resizing is likely to be required at some point and basically
>> impossible with real partitions.
>
> Agreed, with the notable exception of separate /boot when needed.
>
> - Josh Triplett
Luckily the only "needed" scenario for x86/amd64 is now for encrypted /.
And I'm thinking encrfs might be better there and avoid that too.
MfG
Goswin
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