On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 12:45:41AM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > On 11-05-26 at 02:20pm, Steve Langasek wrote: > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 04:52:38PM -0400, Mackenzie Morgan wrote: > > > On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Benjamin Drung <bdrung@debian.org> > > > wrote: > > > > Recommends or Suggests: > > > > cdbs > > > > cmake > > > My reasoning on these two was that some people probably aren't > > > interested in switching from cdbs to quilt, so coming across > > > packages still using it will be common for a while. CMake is a > > > corollary to autoconf and heavily used in KDE-land, which seems like > > > a not-insignificant number of packages. > > But in both cases, those should be pulled in as build-depends, no? > > To have them as dependencies of this package sounds to me like you're > > recommending these tools for use. > now this is getting interesting: This really is a debate on whether > Debian should encourage or discourage development using CDBS and Qt? Qt != cmake. You can use Qt without incurring the NIH limitations of cmake. If we were discussing whether to encourage development using Qt, I would expect to see libqt4-dev in the proposed dependency list. This is also not really a discussion of whether Debian encourages or discourages anything, only of whether the maintainers of this proposed package will encourage or discourage something. As I said, I'm not a target user for this package, so I don't really care what goes in it; but it's pretty clear to me that the utility of such a package is that it provides some "recommended" environment for developing packages. If the maintainers want to recommend cdbs as a packaging tool, they can depend on cdbs; if that's not their recommendation, I don't see the point in including it in the package relationships at all. Conversely, if their recommendation is to use cdbs, I don't think it makes sense for such a package to depend on debhelper directly. -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org
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