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Re: Bug#625865: ITP: ocportal -- ocPortal is a Content Management System for building and maintaining a dynamic website

On Fri, 2011-05-06 at 14:54 -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> On 05/06/2011 02:39 PM, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote:
> > I was responding to someone who said I 'supported' inclusion of proposed
> > package.
> Ah, I misunderstood. My apologies.


> > Yeah, good point. So it's not enough for packager to say he will be
> > responsive to problems?
> Packages, once uploaded, enter the Debian ecosystem and therefore
> involve some time from many others: the security team, the ftpmasters,
> the release managers, BSP participants, etc. as well as consuming
> resources (archive space, autobuild time, etc.) So the cost needs to be
> justified by the value to Debian. If there is no perceived value, the
> package should not be added to the archive.

Understood, but what's so hard about removing a package that's unloved
(and moving it to some unofficial repository)?

> > As I've mentioned elsewhere on this thread, it's not kool to just say
> > 'no', without stating why.
> Huh. I thought Joss did say why. It's a CMS. It's PHP. That's why. :)
> (and maybe that's not enough for you, but those are reasons *I* wouldn't
> invest time in such an endeavour.)

Actually he didn't say why. It might be implied, but not all of us know
the guy well enough to know what he means.

I'm curious though, why is there an objection against CMS inclusions in

> > I'm lost there. What you mean about the mirror thing, and about the
> > sarcasm thing? Where did I use sarcasm?
> If referring to Joss as "The great Josselin Mouette" was sincere and not
> sarcasm, then my mistake. It had the appearance of a jab.

I tried to avoid that by mentioning why I called him great. Here's more:

His tireless work on Debian GNOME packaging impresses me, and that's my
favorite desktop. He appears to me the most visible member of the team.
I trust him to help build a solid GNOME desktop, and that's not exactly
a trivial task. He's one of Debian legends. Such excellence makes it
even more sad when he gets this unproductive.

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