Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 04:49:42PM +0200, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote:
> On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 01:31:24PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 11:41:35AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > > It is clear from the discussion that there would be consequences. Some
> > > would be negative, some positive. I think that we have now a pretty good
> > > understanding of the possibilities and their consequences. The remaining
> > > problem is to count DDs heads in the two camps:
> > > - "Let's focus on stable releases. A rolling release should not be
> > > provided officially by Debian."
> > > - "Let's see what we can do about rolling, provided we find a way to do it
> > > without diminishing the quality of our stable releases."
> > FWIW I'm in neither. My camp would be: Please do not impede our way to
> > produce stable releases in any ways, do whatever you want with rolling.
> I'm sorry but I find that a lame request. If, in whatever circumstances,
> Debian as a project decides to care about something beyond stable
> releases, for instance something called rolling, it will as a matter of
> fact use power of the project for such new thing and thus distract that
> power from stable releases. Always. Saying that anyone can do anything
> as long as it never interferes with what we have now is exactly the
> definition of keeping the status-quo, i.e. preventing improvement.
> Granted, it also prevents breakage.
Huh, no, you can do lots of stuff that don't harm releasing a Stable…
> > I've suggested integrating aptosid (or $derivative) people inside of
> > Debian as a way to provide rolling, I know that Joss did so on planet
> > too e.g. That has two very important advantages:
> > * it brings in new blood *now* (and not an hypothetical later) to
> > actually take care of rolling (which doesn't make all my reservation
> > moot but I reckon does lessen their scope significantly);
> > * it brings people who know how to do that and already have
> > infrastructure to do so. We would just give them the opportunity to
> > benefit from the larger and robust infrastructure we have, while
> > taking their experience. Looks like it's win-win.
> Have you asked *any* contributor of *any* project about why they didn't
> put their efforts in Debian but instead into a different project?
That's not the same thing as creating ways inside of Debian to scatter
resources on too many projects. That would be irrational.
·O· Pierre Habouzit