On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 03:42:28PM +0200, Faidon Liambotis wrote: > > That means: > > # mv /etc/rc2.d/S??apache2 /etc/rc2.d/K00apache2 > > # insserv # this bit is not documented, it seems > Are you serious? How's that a sysadmin interface? Yes, everything can be > done using sh/cp/mv/vi, but this is hardly something that's either > properly documented or a replacement for the current method of doing things. *What* "current method"? At present there *is* no reliable sysadmin interface for enabling/disabling services. update-rc.d is not it; many admins have been using 'update-rc.d -f remove' for years, but this is /wrong/ and it is /documented/ that this will cause the links to be readded on package upgrade. policy-rc.d is not it; the spec for this is bloated and I've never heard of an admin who's ever bothered implementing anything more than a "don't start any services in a chroot" policy using this. And /etc/default/* isn't it; no consistent variable naming, not implemented for all services (and shouldn't be), so it's not scriptable, so it requires vi. So the mv command above *is* the current method. And we're in desperate need of a better one. > Also, while we're at update-rc.d's documentation, that particular > manpage says: > > Example of disabling a service: > > update-rc.d -f foobar remove > > update-rc.d foobar stop 20 2 3 4 5 . > Have you tried that recently? It doesn't work in squeeze systems. Sounds like a bug; has anyone filed it? (Or is it just that insserv doesn't know about the change and needs to be rerun?) > On the other hand, update-rc.d has enable/disable since squeeze, but > this is considered an unstable interface, AFAIK. Hmm. I don't think update-rc.d is the right place for this anyway (we should fix things to have proper layering so that 'update-rc.d' is exclusively an internal package interface, and 'service' is exclusively an admin interface), but where do you see that update-rc.d enable/disable is an unstable interface? It's not documented as such in the manpage. Thanks, -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and a Free OS Debian Developer to set it on, and I can move the world. Ubuntu Developer http://www.debian.org/ slangasek@ubuntu.com vorlon@debian.org
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