On Tue, 2011-03-01 at 17:19 +0100, Olaf van der Spek wrote: > >> So what *is* the proper UI? > > > > The sensible abstraction for this is 'service' - but it doesn't appear that > > service has support for enable/disable yet :( > > Do other distro's use service for this? actually i think chkconfig is more common than service for enabling/disabling. > What's the reason update-rc.d is limited to maintainer scripts? well, for starters the interface sucks from a sysadmin point of view compared to stuff like chkconfig/service. i also think that there's (a perhaps shrunken, haven't checked in a while) set of things that you just can't do with update-rc.d, without having the changes lost the next time the package is upgraded. i mean, it's not even that great for maintainer scripts, as evidenced by the total inconsistency for how developers are managing enabling/disabling of their services. imho i think we need to step back and re-think the entire way we're currently handling init scripts, both from the packaging point of view and from the end-user/admin point of view. i think someone tried to start something like this up long ago[1] but it never picked up steam. maybe now that we have two new different init systems at the gates and also people wanting to have continued support of "traditional" sysv/file-rc, we should consider trying to revitalize that discussion? sean [1] this would be the initscripts-ng alioth project
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