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Re: discussing upstream software on -devel (Re: Bug#614601: ITP: libsafewrite -- Simple functions for performing safe atomic replacement of files

On 23/02/11 12:23, Holger Levsen wrote:

On Mittwoch, 23. Februar 2011, Shachar Shemesh wrote:
Giving feedback over the
upstream trustworthiness is not the purpose of ITP bugs,
oh, hell yes, it is.

Where else should we discuss what software fits into Debian? debian-qa@ when
it's too late?
Sorry. I phrased it wrong. I committed a largish change to git and then tested when I had the chance (a few days later). Upon testing, I used the wrong variable in a couple of places, which obviously caused things to not work. I committed this with the log message "Fix bugs a few small bugs." Redundant word aside, the word "small" is what brought The Wrath of Ben on my head.

Don't get me wrong. After the initial instinct to flame subsided, I didn't mind that much. I got a bunch of comments, about 50% of which were actually useful to some degree (all of which are already fixed), and I learned something about the Linux kernel that I didn't before.

If a maintainer's decision to relate to the size of the fix rather than the size of the consequence is a reason to boycott a package from Debian, then do let me know, because as things stand I intend to continue with the submitting process.
and I have been
warned by the list masters that discussing a specific package's upstream
bugs on Debian-devel is off topic.
I dont think this is neither true nor what they said. Surely a discussion
about upstream bugs can become off-topic on debian-devel though.
I'm sorry, Neil, but I'm quoting your message almost in full. Neil Williams sent me the following on January 3rd, regarding the previous thread about safewrite:
Please remember,debian-devel@lists.debian.org  is for discussion
between Debian developers about issues within Debian (like problems
within groups of packages or with particular tools), it's not intended
for individual source code project development.

This issue is general filesystem/programming issues, it is not Debian

Please can you find / setup a list for this project and move the
discussion elsewhere from here on? If you want to keep it within the
realm of source code related to Debian, an Alioth mailing list would be
To which I replied that I cannot terminate an already running thread, and the setting up a mailing list for a project which is likely to reach maturity in a couple of versions is a bit of a waste, but that I'll try to wind down the discussion thread. I'm assuming that his lack of response indicates that he found my answer satisfactory.


Shachar Shemesh
Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd.

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