Hi, On Sonntag, 15. August 2010, brian m. carlson wrote: > The Unix tradition is for programs to run silently unless there's a > problem. [...] > > I have no problem with programs taking an environment variable or a > command line option in order to produce debugging output, but it > shouldn't be the default. Amen. > When you run these programs outside of a > terminal, the output goes to .xsession-errors. Logging a lot of useless > debugging information makes finding actual problems in .xsession-errors > a lot less likely. That, and it also fills up the homedirectory (and iceweasel+flash does this rather quickly). In environments where home is limited to something low as one or two GB (which is a reallife example as there were a lot of of homedirectories and they should be backuped) this leads to a denial of service, home is full and the user cant log in. IIRC we've used rm'ing .xsession-errors on login as a workaround. Which is as useful for debugging as linking it to /dev/null would be. So I'm all for a policy demanding silent output as default. cheers, Holger
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