Re: Let’s turn DEP5 into something useful
Le Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:52:36AM +0200, Josselin Mouette a écrit :
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> So, how about dropping entirely anything that’s related to files and
> only keep the amount of information we are requiring now? I feel sorry
> for the giant bikeshedding thread about spaces and commas, but it is not
> getting us anywhere.
Hi Josselin and all,
debian-devel is not a moderated mailing list. The discussion about spaces and
commas was not initiated by the DEP drivers, and we did not contribute most of
its messages. I agree to take some of the blame for not managing to avoid or
stop it, but let's be realistic: this is how debian-devel is. When I proposed
to take the discussion somewhere else a few monthes ago, I was badly flamed as
well. And I would have appreciated the support of those who complain today
about the noise.
Each contribution I make to this DEP has to goal of making our life easier as
maintaiers. Copyright file is optional. Files field can be omitted if it
contains ‘*’. I spend the time of reading all messages in this thread to make
sure that ideas and comments that reach consensus will be integrated. There
will be free-form comments, there will be a FAQ that reminds that not all
licenses require a verbatim copy of the copyright statements, and for the most
common licenses, we can document this in the list of abbreviations.
What you probably complain about is this:
Your debian/copyright file must contain the following information:
- The author(s) name
- The year(s) of the copyright
- The used license(s)
- The URL to the upstream source
In many packages there is more than one author, more than one
copyright-holder and more than one license. Do not miss to list them
all, even if that other license is just for one file. Yes, any single
file is important.
This very strict rule was re-confirmed a few hours ago by one of the Project's
archive administrators.
This is not in the DEP, and I dislike it as much as you and others. I maintain
small packages, but many of them, and the efforts it takes me to prepare
debian/copyright before uploading to the new package queue of our archive
represent often more than half of the work. It kills the fun. I find the
machine-readable format a valuable tool to help me avoid rejection. And I admit
it is also good for stirring up the s…
Your GR did not have success, Stefano was not elected DPL, so it seems that the
majority of the Developers is happy with the standards that the archive
administrators are imposing to us. Maybe Debconf is the best place to figure
out whether this is a false impression. I am not going there, but if there would
be anything to say, it is ‘stand up and speak, and don't shoot the messenger’.
Have a nice week-end,
--
Charles Plessy
I limit myself to one message per day in this thread and encourage everybody
else to do so.
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