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Re: Automatic Debug Packages

On Tue, Aug 11 2009, Josselin Mouette wrote:

> Le mardi 11 août 2009 à 08:24 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
>>         Hmm. I see very little benefit here. Firstly, to use build id,
>>  you have to intercept the upstream build system and add --build-id
>>  (and perhaps the --build-id-style) option to ld, instead of the current
>>  method of letting the upstream build happen and working on the produced
>>  objects -- this is more intrusive.  And what do we gain?
> Without build IDs, GDB has no sure way to map the binary to the correct
> detached symbols. Therefore it will read the whole file to compute its
> CRC32 (!) and compare it to the one stored in the gnu_debuglink section
> of the binary.
> This sole issue is responsible for gdb taking up to several minutes to
> produce a backtrace for binaries using big libraries like xulrunner. And
> don’t even think of using the debugging symbols over the network in this
> case.

        Yes, that would indeed be silly -- if you have managed to
 intercept ld  and added --build-id to the executable, it would be silly
 not to have the file in the location gdb will look in.

        However, if you do not use the build-id mechanism, and use what
 we currently use in dh_strip and friends, objcopy --add-gnu-debuglink
 adds information that gdb looks at to figure out where the debug
 symbols live -- and no CRC check sum is ever performed. 

        So a mixed mode approach would indeed be bad. But a pure debug
 link method does not have these stated drawbacks.

        Given the difficulty in intercepting ld commands in upstream
 build systems, I would  be inclined to just standardize the debug link
 method, given that it produces human readable file names (so I can
 determine manually if I have debugging symbols for some library or
 not) as an added bonus. 

Work is the crab grass in the lawn of life. Schulz
Manoj Srivastava <srivasta@debian.org> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/>  
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