Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Apr 05, 2009 at 11:06:15PM +0200, Bart Samwel wrote: >> 1. The upstream for this package is Ubuntu. Ubuntu has never been very >> cooperative at accepting changes, until recently: our contact Steve >> Langasek has indicated that he is interested in merging most or all of >> our changes, provided that we send them in in chunks, with proper >> rationales. > > I have to say here in defense of Ubuntu that I don't see any record of these > patches being submitted to the Ubuntu package via Launchpad, which, since > Ubuntu does not have individual package maintainers, is the only reliable > way to ensure that proposed changes are seen and considered by the people > working on the package at any given time. > > I don't have time to work on the Debian package myself (either as maintainer > or for sifting through the delta between Debian and Ubuntu), but I > definitely am happy to accept fixes "upstream" in reasonable-sized chunks. > > Anyway, as Bart points out, there's another issue: > >> 4. Ubuntu is PHASING OUT this package. They have already moved suspend >> to pm-utils (but have failed to remove suspend support from >> acpi-support). They're currently moving hotkey translation to hal. This >> means that soon we will have no upstream that we can follow! Or we >> should ensure that Ubuntu's hal changes are included in our version of >> hal as well -- no clue how those packages are related, or whether >> Ubuntu's changes are going into upstream hal. > > Since the last time I had a chance to speak with Bart about this, there's > been quite a bit of progress on phasing out the package for Ubuntu; in > jaunty, we've dropped a number of quirk scripts related to suspend/resume, > as well as close to 30 of the ACPI event-handling scripts from /etc/acpi - > basically: all those scripts that were being used to synthesize key > events (which doesn't work with recent kernels anyway) and which we could > verify were being handled by hal. > > And yes, Martin Pitt works very closely with hal upstream to ensure fixes > are incorporated. I can confirm that. Martin is doing an awesome job, submitting patches upstream or to Debian ftm. As (co-)maintainer of pm-utils and hal, I'd prefer if we could work towards standardizing on one power management stack in Debian (and not install 3 by default ), i.e. I'd support in phasing out acpi-support and would gladly accept patches for hal and pm-utils which add (if there are) any missing bits from acpi-support. Cheers, Michael  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=451380 -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth?
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