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Re: Change the format of /usr/share/bug/*/script



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On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:09:26 +0100
Neil Williams <codehelp@debian.org> wrote:

> On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 15:35 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Le jeudi 11 septembre 2008 à 14:39 +0200, Luca Bruno a écrit :
> > > The proposal:
> > > I know it's bad to break compatibility but I also think keeping things
> > > with hacks and far from the GUI prospective can become obsolete and
> > > non user-friendly.
> > > 
> > > First solution: change the scripts to use a bash function instead of
> > > cat <<EOF, like yesno() create a function display() without hacking
> > > cat() and keep going using a FIFO to deal with the UI
> 
> I can't speak for others but my scripts use yesno():
>   yesno "May I include your sources.list (/etc/apt/sources.list)? " yep
> 
> The frontend could execute their own shell wrapper that implements yesno
> and sources the bug script (as reportbug does). The other yesno function
> can do whatever is necessary to callback into the frontend, get the user
> response and feed it back to the script.
> 
> If the frontend can use yesno(), I think it's perfectly reasonable to
> expect all packages using bug scripts to use yesno() and not cat <<EOF.
> 
> > > Second solution: I don't know, I'm asking to you
> > 
> > The second solution is to specify that these scripts should not be
> > interactive. I don’t think there is much point in it, and it would
> > simplify things a lot.
> 
> We've been here before. Some people might value the opportunity to
> refuse permission to include sources lists and other data - any
> non-interactive frontend must make it absolutely clear that this data
> has been included and it is up to the user to delete it.
> 
> Cannot the other frontends do what reportbug does and implement a bash
> function that scripts can call? The terminal can be hidden or run via
> internal calls, just as long as it pauses and allows the user to make a
> decision.
> 
> I suspect the problem with using debconf will be that debconf a) expects
> to be run as root and b) is too specialised in how it wants to store
> data (which we don't want to do at this point). However, something that
> implements a choice of frontends *without losing functionality* is the
> best bet.
> 

The problem comes also with yesno(), because the more sane (as far as I know) way to communicate is FIFO.
You call the yesno() function, then it writes to the FIFO and request ui.yes_no() from python.
But for cat <<EOF, which actually your script is using too, I had to export -f cat hacked to send lines to the FIFO in a particular way.
So there's something like a protocol I've created to deal with the python UI.

If scripts could use a function like display() that would solve the problem of "overriding" cat().

Reportbug is ok with text and urwid (which also stops curses and switches to text), but the coming GTK+ interface won't support it. You have to switch to the terminal and see what's happening, or alternatively embed a VTE in the wizard.

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