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Re: mentors.debian.ORG?



On Mon, Apr 07, 2008 at 10:58:36PM +0200, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
> On 11348 March 1977, Christoph Haas wrote:
> 
> > As soon as that part is done I would like to consider moving the service
> > to an official Debian machine. I've been sponsoring hardware for
> > mentors.debian.net for the last years. In my opinion the mentors server
> > has become an established resource and is used a lot. So I wondered what
> > has to be done to get it into debian.org hardware. I'd still be willing
> > to maintain it of course.
> 
> One problem with hosting it on a debian.org machine is that this might
> include software not checked by an ftpmaster/assistant, which might very
> well be undistributable by Debian. Which is a *BAD* thing to do on a
> debian host. IMO not very likely to get on such a host.

The focus of mentors.debian.net is to host source packages that are
supposed to be sponsored. So it's not some weird multiverse non-free
binary warez repository or something. That doesn't ensure that some
packages being uploaded can't be redistributed of course. But the same
might happen with packages uploaded to ftp-master to be checked by the
FTP team.

> Are you hardcoded to your solution? I wouldn't have a problem if we go
> and merge this into dak.ganneff.de

Honestly dak scares me a lot. I tried to get it running with the few
bits of information I could find quite some time ago. I deeply believe
that it's a great repository management software and way more
sophisticated than what mentors.debian.net delivers. And as much as I
hate to avoid double-work I think in this case there are different
goals. dak is rather the industry-grade hardware package backend for
Debian. While the "new generation" mentors.debian.net is more focusing
on the web and social interaction. Besides it's doing QA tasks that I
didn't see in dak. I just don't think this is where dak is heading. If I
think of REVU and PPAs... that's not dak-like at all. And have I
mentioned that dak scares me? :)

> *Of* course that would work with dak as the background software
> then... Depending on the extras mentors might need it should be doable
> by additions to the dak code.

I may need a glass of Chiraz and the "use the source, Luke" method. But
I'm not really convinced that dak is what I want for this purpose.

Cheers
 Christoph

P.S.: I do not endorse the abuse of drugs while coding!
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