Re: SmellyWerewolf.com perfume & make-up discount
On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 7:46 PM, Stefano Zacchiroli <zack@debian.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 24, 2008 at 11:04:18AM -0600, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
>> In my opinion, which is as humble as it can be (but that might not
>> mean much), I fail to see Joss' post as sexist. From its first line
>> it is a parody, something that very clearly should not be taken
>> seriously. Not that I like it - I'd really very very much prefer if
>> we all took d-d-a as something serious, and not a proper place to
>> post jokes of any kind.
>>
>> _Of course_ that Joss' post mentions sexist situations and points of
>> view. But I don't think there is a single comma in his message meant
>> to be taken seriously.
>
> AOL, it's also my view.
>
> Or, to be more clear (which is mandatory in cases where people can
> feel discriminated), Joss made a parody of advertisements which are
> usually written in the tone and with the wording he used. He just
> copied style and words for the sake of the joke. Think about an
> impersonator [1] (wikipedia link because I've just discovered the
> English word): it is fun only when the impersonator stresses the
> characteristic of who is being impersonated.
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impersonator
>
> If you agree with this interpretation, it is not even worth to discuss
> whether the message was sexiest or not, because content and style are
> inherited from elsewhere.
>
>
> That notwithstanding Joss abused d-d-a, that's undeniable. He could
> have obtained the very same result blogging on planet.d.o or posting
> to -devel. At least the latter two mediums are seen as "less official"
> by our public.
>
> As I was positively surprised by that, I have to kudo Joss for his
> acknowledgment and apologies about the mistake [2]; it doesn't revert
> the fact, but is something rare enough in Debian to be worth pointing
> out.
>
> [2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2008/11/msg00533.html
Very well written, I was just about to write exactly that. +1
Ondrej
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