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- To: submit@bugs.debian.org
- Subject: general: confusion among system log daemons
- From: "KORN Andras" <korn@chardonnay.math.bme.hu>
- Date: 4 Dec 2000 17:49:36 -0000
- Message-id: <20001204174936.9690.qmail@utopia>
Package: general Version: 20001204 Severity: important Hi, Please observe the following: Package: logcheck Version: 1.1.1-6 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.2), debconf, mail-transport-agent, cron, sysklogd, mailx Suggests: syslog-ng Package: msyslog Version: 1:1.01-4 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.97), perl5, logrotate Suggests: msyslog-om-mysql, msyslog-om-pgsql Conflicts: syslogd, system-log-daemon, linux-kernel-log-daemon Provides: syslogd, sysklogd, system-log-daemon, linux-kernel-log-daemon Replaces: sysklogd Package: sysklogd Version: 1.3-33.1 Conflicts: syslogd Provides: syslogd Replaces: syslogd Package: syslog-ng Version: 1.4.9a-1 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.97), logrotate Recommends: kernel-log-daemon Conflicts: system-log-daemon, sysklogd Provides: system-log-daemon Package: anacron Version: 2.3-3 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.94), debianutils (>= 1.7), sysklogd | system-log-daemon, exim | mail-transport-agent Package: sympa Version: 2.6.1-3 Depends: sendmail (>=8.7) | postfix | postfix-tls | qmail | exim, perl5, mailtools (>=1.13), libdigest-md5-perl, libmsgcat-perl, libmime-perl, libmime-base64-perl, libio-stringy-perl, sysklogd (>=1.3-27), libc6 (>= 2.1.2) Package: g2s Version: 0.4.0-2 Recommends: sysklogd | syslog-ng, debconf Package: xwatch Version: 2.11-4 Suggests: sysklogd Package: smtpfeed Version: 1.07.1-1 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.1.2), sysklogd Apparently, the following (virtual and actual) packages related to system logging exist: - sysklogd (actual). There is no need for logcheck to depend on it. In fact, logcheck's dependency on sysklogd and suggestion of syslog-ng contradict each other (since syslog-ng conflicts with sysklogd). Once debian has made up their mind about what to call the virtual syslogd package (system-log-daemon or syslogd), it would be enough for the packages logcheck, anacron, sympa, g2s, xwatch and smtpfeed to depend on that virtual package (instead of depending on one of many actual packages that provide it - or, as things are now, either of the two names of the same virtual package). anacron's dependency on 'sysklogd | system-log-daemon' is probably one example of the kludges this confusion has created. I think system-log-daemon is a better choice for the name of the virtual syslog package than 'syslogd'; the sysklogd package should probably provide either system-log-daemon, or, as long as this confusion prevails, both system-log-daemon and syslogd. - syslog-ng (actual). This package should probably provide the same virtual package(s) as sysklogd. I'm not sure if my understanding of the Replaces: header is correct, but I believe syslog-ng might Replace: system-log-daemon. - msyslog (actual). This package should probably provide the same virtual package(s) as sysklogd. I'm not sure if my understanding of the Replaces: header is correct, but I believe msyslog might Replace: system-log-daemon. linux-kernel-log-daemon appears to be a virtual package invented by msyslog's maintainer - is this right? No other package mentions it. Perhaps they should (?). - syslogd (virtual). Make up your minds; should this be the virtual syslog package or the one below? - system-log-daemon (virtual). Make up your minds; should this be the virtual syslog package or the one above? - linux-kernel-log-daemon (virtual). Is there supposed to be such a virtual package? If so, what are its relationships with sysklogd and syslog-ng? - kernel-log-daemon (virtual). syslog-ng Recommends: it, but nothing seems to Provide: it. Should sysklogd provide it? If so, then syslog-ng probably shouldn't conflict with sysklogd (it didn't until recently), or provide kernel-log-daemon itself. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to make sense of syslog-ng's changelog entries; Attila, perhaps you would like me to help you translate them into English? :) I hope you can proceed to do something about this confusing state of affairs. I Cc: this report to the maintainers of all packages mentioned above. Please forgive me if some of you receive multiple copies of this message. Regards, Andrew -- Andrew Korn (Korn Andras) <korn@chardonnay.math.bme.hu> Finger korn@chardonnay.math.bme.hu for pgp key. QOTD: I'd love to go out with you, but I'm having all my plants neutered. -- System Information Debian Release: woody Kernel Version: Linux utopia 2.4.0-test11 #15 Mon Dec 4 15:10:19 CET 2000 i686 unknown
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- To: Michael Biebl <biebl@debian.org>
- Cc: 78782-done@bugs.debian.org
- Subject: Re: syslogs in debian
- From: Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>
- Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 20:28:55 +0200
- Message-id: <200808252029.03105.holger@layer-acht.org>
- In-reply-to: <[🔎] 48B2EDC0.3040809@debian.org>
- References: <200808251252.16809.holger@layer-acht.org> <[🔎] 48B2EDC0.3040809@debian.org>
Hi Michael, On Monday 25 August 2008 19:37, Michael Biebl wrote: > still after the switch to rsyslog. We'd have to update quite a few > packages to change that to rsyslog | system-log-daemon I assume you will track this post lenny? > In my POV, this bug report can be closed as the raised issues have been > sorted out. I agree, thanks for summarizing this! regards, HolgerAttachment: pgpn30jxi7ojy.pgp
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