On Mon, 4 Jun 2007 20:53:11 +1000 Anthony Towns wrote: [...] > To expand on that a bit more: IMHO, Debian is fundamentally about what > its contributors want -- we're focussed on doing right by our users > and the free software community, but ultimately, as far as Debian's > concerned, the first and foremost representatives of both those groups > are the users and free software community members who actually make > Debian work. It seems you are implying that analyzing licenses and spending time to reply to questions sent to debian-legal is *not* a contribution to the Debian Project. If you really think that participating to debian-legal is not a contribution to the Debian Project, then please have a GR to abolish this list, so that I can stop wasting my time in dissecting issues and providing analyses that will get ignored by decision-makers. I used to be happy with the Debian Project having a transparent and open license analysis process, but it seems that this is just hypocrisy: the real decisions about which packages are acceptable for main are taken by a few people who seem to deliberately ignore any advice from debian-legal. Just like the FSF and OSI, who accept or reject licenses behind closed doors, without any real public explanation of the rationale... Your attitude towards debian-legal participants and towards non-DDs is rather insulting and does not encourage me to consider the idea of applying for the NM process. [...] > And when analysis of licenses tends to amount to not > much more than "we've discussed this issue already, it's not free" > there's not much point to the debate at all, afaics. On the contrary, you could read the archived discussions and explain why you think the arguments made are invalid. I think there's not much point in repeating arguments that have already been made in the past (and are publicly archived for future reference), unless new data or counter-arguments are provided. > > But if no one on -legal sees what I'm trying to get at by now, I guess > there's not much point to this debate either. Frankly speaking, it seems to me that you are trying to persuade debian-legal regulars to act as "yes men" who blindly follow what the majority of the "open source" community does. Hence, it seems you're trying to make debian-legal become pointless and useless. -- http://frx.netsons.org/doc/nanodocs/testing_workstation_install.html Need to read a Debian testing installation walk-through? ..................................................... Francesco Poli . GnuPG key fpr == C979 F34B 27CE 5CD8 DC12 31B5 78F4 279B DD6D FCF4
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