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Re: Short report on Debian at UseR! 2007 conference at Iowa State Univ.



On Saturday 18 August 2007 12:36:41 Soeren Sonnenburg wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-08-14 at 21:26 -0500, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
> First of all I really like your efforts of debianizing R packages. I
> think debian is currently well suited to be used in ``science'' but yes
> there is a lot more one can do. I was indeed missing the nowadays quite
> standard bioconductor packages when I had to do some microarray
> analysis.

It is what we feel. Many thanks for your positive feedback.

> Regarding machine generated debian packages it is a first step and
> probably the only way given this amount of R-packages. I also don't
> think they could be in debian. This especially holds for the more
> esoteric/brand new research/unstable R-packes. However I would want to
> see the more mature bioconductor packages in debian...

Again, I think we can agree on this, 

> Thinking about it, *I* think it would be best to proceed in a similar
> way as the texlive people, i.e. have debian packages for all major
> categories which include the major mature R-packages of that category
>
> r-bioc-base
> r-bioc-microarray
> r-bioc-annotation
> r-bioc-statistics
> r-bioc-graphs
> r-bioc-technology

Hm. I kind of like it, though I rather see this implemented as virtual 
packages that come rather naturally from the Biotags that BioConductor 
assigns to itself.

> The remaining R-packages could be packaged as single debian-packages as
> you proposed to do it and maybe even hosted a bioconductor.org? In case
> a package seems more mature it can enter any of the categories and one
> could add proper conflicts/replaces as an upgrade path. BTW, this also
> solves the `not-up-to-date issue', as more mature packages don't require
> weekly/monthly updates.

Hm. I am not sure. The problem with hiding it all is that we also do not use 
apt-cache search to find the proper BioC packages in the first place. We hide 
this information away in the superpackages. It also impedes the communication 
of Debian users with R developers and the assignment of Bugs.

Btw, wouldn't you be interested to join our effort? I'd offer sponsoring 
SHOGUN for Debian as a compensation :-) 

Many greetings from the fairly sunny Baltic Sea to my former home Berlin

Steffen


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