On Wed, 01 Aug 2007 21:57:01 +0200 Josselin Mouette <joss@debian.org> wrote: > Le mercredi 01 août 2007 à 19:14 +0100, Neil Williams a écrit : > > Precisely - just what is the benefit? > > Stopping to get stupid bug reports from either users not having > installed Recommends: and complaining about missing functionality, That smacks of a poor manpage/docs more than a need to *force* a change in apt behaviour. Sledgehammer vs nut anyone? What about a different solution: apt does NOT install Recommends: by default but it DOES give more information on what the recommended packages can actually DO and this information is also available to reportbug etc.? Currently, all you see is a package name - if the default apt behaviour was to display the description (ala aptitude) then the user can make an intelligent choice. I may even install one or two Recommends: myself but I need to know WHY foobar5 is useful in the first place. This should NOT be a forced change, it should not have to be a system-wide opt-out implemented on every single machine again and again. It should be a method to support an informed choice. Blindly installing all Recommends: is a BAD idea. > or > users complaining about non-essential Depends: bloating their disk > space. On that, will apt be given an autorecommendremove option to complement this change? Recommends: should not be a blanket imposition. Users and system admins need a method of opting out of Recommends at any stage - preferably right at the start but also to strip out unwanted bloat at any later stage too. I still think this is simply the wrong thing to do with apt. Fixing Recommends: is *not* sufficient justification IMHO. -- Neil Williams ============= http://www.data-freedom.org/ http://www.nosoftwarepatents.com/ http://www.linux.codehelp.co.uk/
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