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Re: Considerations for 'xmms' removal from Debian



> Hi
> 
> Could you get audacious + audacious-plugins-extra from unstable and tell 
> us which formats are supported by xmms but not by audacious ?
> 

Is there is a wiki page for this?

Just at a glance, here is what I see. I've pasted the package descriptions for 
what I suspect are the most obscure ones.  You can probably track down the 
developers of these on the Hydrogen Audio forums.  Rarewares is the 
repository associated with that community. 

repositories I'm looking at:

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free

deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ sid main
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ experimental main

deb http://www.rarewares.org/debian/packages/unstable/ ./
deb http://www.rarewares.org/debian/packages/experimental/ ./


Input plugins:
xmms-bonk
xmms-dtsc
xmms-dvb
Package: xmms-dvb
Version: 0.4.0-1
Architecture: i386
Maintainer: mike gan <xmixahlx@yahoo.com>
Installed-Size: 72
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0), libgtk1.2 (>= 
1.2.10-4), libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxext6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), libxi6 | 
xlibs (>> 4.1.0), xmms, xmms (>= 1.2.10-1), liblame0 (>= 3.89-1)
Filename: ./xmms-dvb_0.4.0-1_i386.deb
Size: 25100
MD5sum: ddeb8abc2f6c2fa59532590616a64b5d
Section: sound
Priority: optional
Description: direct dvb playback for xmms
 enables XMMS to directly play MPEG-1 Layer II audio streams received
 by a DVB-S PCI-Adapter compatible with the driver available from
 http://www.linuxtv.org/
xmms-la (lossless audio)
xmms-mac (monkey's audio)
xmms-musepack-sv8 (frequent sv8 SVN snapshots are available on rarewares. The 
musepack in debian is old enough to be a different beast.)
xmms-vqfplugin
xmms-adplug
xmms-sexyspc
xmms-festalon (I have no idea if game_music_emu is a  satisfactory replacement 
or not)
xmms-optimfrog
xmms-speex
xmms-a52dec

Output plugins:
xmms-encode-lame
xmms-encode-vorbis
xmms-oss-surround
Package: xmms-oss-surround
Version: 0.1-1
Architecture: i386
Maintainer: mike gan <xmixahlx@yahoo.com>
Installed-Size: 52
Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), xmms (>= 1.2.10-1)
Filename: ./xmms-oss-surround_0.1-1_i386.deb
Size: 14798
MD5sum: d189d19cc8baa535b7507381f2224aed
Section: sound
Priority: optional
Description: oss surround sound output plugin for xmms - a52dec
 an OSS output plugin supporting surround sound.
 distributed with xmms-a52dec
xmms-rplay

I suspect the biggest one is shorten.  It's still used a lot in the legal 
bootleg / etree community. I'm not aware of anything other than xmms that 
supports it without using ffmpeg.  If xmms goes away deadhead linux users, 
which I suspect is a fair sized population, will riot.  A lot of people have 
thousands or hours of hours of audio in .shn files. 

In some cases there are plugins which provide similar functionality but are 
not the same.  There's just libmad and no libmpeg123.    People have had ten 
years now to convince themselves they can hear the difference and xmms 
remains the media player of choie for adiophilles.  Between arts in KDE and 
the gnome HIG, there hasn't been a lot in recent years to convince audio 
geeks they should use anything else. 



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