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Re: rampant offtopic and offensive posts to debian-user

On Mon, May 21, 2007 at 07:03:44PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
> andreimpopescu@gmail.com (Andrei Popescu) writes:
> > On Sun, May 20, 2007 at 11:57:42AM +1000, Ben Finney wrote:
> >
> >> Joey is, I believe, referring to a healthy level of off-topic
> >> discussions on *any* list, not to creating a specific area for
> >> "off-topic" messages. For the messages to be "social lubricant", they
> >> need to be *interspersed* with the on-topic discussions in a way that
> >> doesn't detract from the discussions.
> >
> > IMHO forcing people to take off-topic discussions out of the forum (read 
> > Debian community) is not good.
> Yes, it is.  I would read -user more frequently that I do if this sort
> of rubbish wasn't present.  As it is, I grep the subject headers for
> relevent keywords to pick out support requests for my packages--every
> few months.  If it wasn't full of junk, I might attempt this more
> regularly, but it's currently a waste of my time.

I think my proposed solution (a separate list) would help move off-topic 
discussions away from -user.

> > Debian is based on volunteers and for some contributors (yes,
> > answering questions is also a way of contributing, so you - the DDs
> > - don't have to do this here) the community might be the thing that
> > keeps them here rather then some other project or FOSS in general.
> debian-user is a user support list, not a social gathering.  While the
> occasional off-topic post might be tolerable, repeatedly offtopic
> postings between "regulars" make the list unusable for the people who
> it is intended to serve--users.

So you agree to a separate -offtopic list?

> The same concerns were levelled at the #debian IRC channel a while
> back, and there are certain parallels.  I don't monitor that either,
> for much the same reasons (though it may have improved since it moved
> From FreeNode).

Maybe a #debian-offtopic would help there too.

If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)

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