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Re: Debian desktop -situation, proposals for discussion and change. Users point of view.


Thank you for sharing your point of view. But you draw too many
conclusions. You speak out of "rumors" and "experience" and you fail to
understand that Debian is not a Desktop-only distribution.

Get involved and learn our development process, you'll discover that you
can't rely on many assumptions that you made.

On Tue, 15 May 2007, Mgr. Peter Tuharsky wrote:
> in my experience, testing is not really good option for real work. There 
> are _platform_ changes going in testing, that leads to broken 
> dependencies and sometimes completely nonfunctional snapshots.

Testing is usable. I used it through the whole development cycle of etch.
Bugs are unavoidable, you said it yourself. It's a matter of how many
problems you can accept.

> Therefore, I suggest _the_platform_ (libraries and so on) to remain 
> stable, just upgrade the software that runs on top of that. Thus we can 
> both avoid broken deps problems, and have new software available.

In the Debian context, "Gnome" is a platform. It's not only software
that runs on top of libc6. Gnome represent dozens of libraries that are used
by hundreds of applications.

You can't just get the latest version and hope that it won't break

> If You mean to use the software from testing -You must first make it run 
> on stable without need for library upgrades. That is more similar to 
> backports job, than to testing.

You can't backport everything if you don't want to upgrade libraries. It's
simply not doable without rewriting the application.

> Testing should simply be the place where _platform_ changes are shaken 
> out, not the "input buffer for the new software".

Actually sid is where the platform changes are done. And once they're OK,
they get moved to testing in a coherent manner. So testing should stay

Raphaël Hertzog

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