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Re: LSB init scripts

Lennart Sorensen <lsorense@csclub.uwaterloo.ca> writes:
> On Thu, May 03, 2007 at 10:08:20PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote:

>> This is also a "sales" issue. I have seen to many faces darken when
>> people see a Debian system boot for the first time. People get reminded
>> of the old DOS days and decide that this Linux thing is too ugly to
>> use.

> So knowledge is ugly?  It is obviously so much better to not know what
> is going on so that if it doesn't work you don't have to worry about it
> because you know nothing that could help you to solve it so it isn't
> your problem of course.

> Now being able to just turn on the details when something is wrong, and
> have them no there the rest of the time might be OK.  On the other hand
> you boot once every few months so who cares what the boot messages look
> like. :)

My ideal output format would just list "subsystem OK" (probably lined up
neatly) for each subsystem that's started successfully, so if everything
is fine, you'd see nothing but OKs.  (Special exception for startup that
needs to tell you what it's doing, in which case I'd like to see the
indented output of that subsystem before or after or bracketed by the OK
messages.)  If something fails, I want it to say it failed and show all of
the appropriate error messages immediately before or after.

I think that would give you the best of both worlds, particularly if it's
combined with logging so that the *full* output, without any
prettification, goes into a file on disk somewhere.

Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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