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Re: Why does Ubuntu have all the ideas?

On Thu, Aug 24, 2006 at 11:56:21AM -0500, John Goerzen wrote:
> > Because, hardware support seems to be better in Ubutuntu than in Debian?
> > I've not tested it by myself, but I've heard from many people claiming
> > that their hardware (especially Laptop hardware) works perfectly out of
> > the box with Ubuntu but is a PITA to get working on Debian.
> This sort of vague anecdotal "evidence" has been repeated over and over.
> It may be true, but as far as I know, nobody has yet to come forth with
> reporting specific problems in Debian, only "x worked out of the box in
> ubuntu but not in Debian."

Debian shipped XFree86 with its last stable release. This lacked support
for a significant number of then newer cards. Of course this sort of thing
will be remedied for Etch, for example we'll have support for intel's
unreleased 965 chip.

But this isn't simple anecdotal evidence, it's pretty clear that this
drove a huge number of users from debian. I noticed a massive flood of
people coming to #debian saying "Wow, now that Debian has X.org I can use
it again instead of Ubuntu!"[0] Even if we don't autodetect and download
the non-free X drivers, Debian will support people's video cards on newer
hardware when it's released. This, along with providing SATA support out of
the box, should go a long way towards solving this issue in the short term.

 - David Nusinow

[0] This is, of course, anecdotal evidence :-)

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