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Re: Automatic testing of .deb's

On 2/6/06, Ian Jackson <iwj@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> Gustavo Franco writes ("Re: Automatic testing of .deb's"):
> > On 2/2/06, Ian Jackson <iwj@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> > > I would like to have some idea what people think I should do with the
> > > tests that we're hopefully going to have, eventually for lots of
> > > packages.  Would Debian like those tests as patches in wishlist bug
> > > reports, in general ?  That would seem to be best to me but before I
> > > go down this route I'd like to be clear that that's what Debian
> > > developers want.
> >
> > I think you should put out a summary of how many and what packages will
> > be changed in Ubuntu. After that we can agree or not with automatic filling
> > whislist bugs (containing the patches) against Debian packages.
> I think you've misunderstood the situation and what we (Ubuntu) are
> going to do.  There's no question of automatic bug filing, here.


> At the moment there are no patches and so there is no list of
> packages.  As time goes on, Ubuntu will have more and more tests and
> each time an Ubuntu maintainer writes a test that will be an
> additional diff between Ubuntu and Debian; the question then is
> whether in general these tests are considered valueable by Debian.  If
> they are then every time Ubuntu acquires or improves a test the diff
> should be filed in the Debian BTS in the normal way (just as Ubuntu
> maintainers should, IMO, for any package).
> On the other hand, if the tests are not seen as valuable by Debian
> then Ubuntu should not bother the Debian maintainers with them.  But I
> think the responses so far show that Debian probably do value the
> tests[1].  That's good - as a Debian maintainer I think this automatic
> testing will be valuable for Debian too, despite any differences
> between exactly how Debian and Ubuntu will use the tests.

The Ubuntu maintainer should always open bugs with the test related stuff
and see if the Debian maintainer judge it's valuable or not.

I think it's clear and there's no "Debian decision", each maintainer or group
will judge, that's it. We don't need other flamewar to discuss the
obvious, IMHO.

> (...)
> > Since Ubuntu Dapper is actually on freeze, what's your timeline to these
> > patches? Will you include this stuff just on Dapper+1, in the end of
> > the year?
> This particular change to mawk will make it into Dapper.  I'm not sure
> how much effort we'll have at this stage to add tests, but since
> adding tests doesn't break anything (at least until anyone starts
> running the tests) I expect test changes to be accepted quite late.
> But this is really the kind of question for ubuntu-devel, not
> debian-devel.

Sure, but i asked because you were wearing your Ubuntu hat and in my previous
view it was relevant to the subject.

Gustavo Franco

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