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Re: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 17:08 +1100, Russell Coker wrote:
> On Wednesday 25 January 2006 12:10, Joe Wreschnig <piman@debian.org> wrote:
> >  2) We take the patent issue seriously, and drop all MP3 support.
> MP3 software does not belong in Debian/main.  Unlike many patents the MPEG 
> patents probably have a good basis.

To make it clear, this is a *radical* divergence from our previous
position. If other distributions start shipping the Fluendo plugin, it
is also a major step backwards in usability.

> As far as I am aware OGG media is a good alternative to MPEG in every 
> technical measure.  OGG is not as well supported by 3rd party devices (no 
> support in iPod for example) but there are devices which support it (iRiver 
> as an example - incidentally the iRiver gives better sound quality according 
> to the experts and allows recording so is better than the iPod anyway).

It's clear to me you've never had to use an iRiver's Ogg support. It
fails outside a limited bitrate range, drains battery faster, does not
read metadata, and is not available on all devices. Newer iRivers also
use a proprietary communications protocol that is not yet supported in
Debian. Finally, the recording is MP3 only.

Technical qualities of a format have also never been a major
consideration of Debian's support of them, or in user choices.

If we're going to do it, do it because we're taking a stand or think
there's a license violation. Not because we like Ogg.

> By continuing to support MPEG in Debian/main we are decreasing the support of 
> OGG.

By continuing to support MS Word .doc in Debian/main, we are decreasing
the support of OpenDocument. So what? Users have millions, billions of
files in these formats. If we can support them, we should.

> This also applies to mpc123.

The Musepack developers are of the opinion that they no longer infringe
on any patents, as the algorithm has diverged wildly from the MPEG-1
Layer 2 algorithm upon which it is based. It's on at least as good legal
ground as every other audio format in Debian. So please leave it out of
this discussion.
Joe Wreschnig <piman@debian.org>

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