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It looks like some mail program can't cope with the fact I put lines
in my message body prefixed with "To:" and "CC:". Oh well.

The full message is at <URL:http://bugs.debian.org/315059>.

Looks like a Fidonet Gateway - Amazing that Fidonet is still around.

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Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:29:36 +0200
From: Brian May <bam@debian.org>
Subject: Drop KRB4 support from HEIMDAL
Message-ID: <[🔎] sa48xwldtb3.fsf@snoopy.microcomaustralia.com.au>
To: debian-devel@p9.dpk.berlin.fido.de, bug#315059 and submitter (Michael Karcher)
Cc: krb4 maintainer and openafs maintainers
Organization: Point 9 - DOS Pudels Kern
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Hello,

There have been increasing calls for me to drop krb4 support in
Heimdal (first in bug #315059 and now by upstream in bug #334632 - it
would also solve #236851). It would also eliminate confusion such as
in bug #330151 (not a bug).

Would this effect anybody? Would this break anything?

I noted when I was experimenting with openafs last I couldn't get it
to work without krb4 support in Heimdal KDC, but admit I may have been
doing something wrong.

krb4 is generally considered obsolete and insecure - I think the only
reason it was requested was because of AFS requirements - does that
reason still apply?

Thanks.
-- 
Brian May <bam@debian.org>


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Received: by p9.dpk.berlin.fido (FIDOGATE 4.4.10)
	id AA10674; Sun, 23 Oct 2005 12:02:19 +0200
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2005 01:29:36 +0200
From: Brian May <bam@debian.org>
Subject: Drop KRB4 support from HEIMDAL
Message-ID: <[🔎] sa48xwldtb3.fsf@snoopy.microcomaustralia.com.au>
To: debian-devel, bug#315059 and submitter (Michael Karcher)
To: debian-devel@p9.dpk.berlin.fido.de, bug#315059 and submitter (Michael Karcher)
Cc: krb4 maintainer and openafs maintainers
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Hello,

There have been increasing calls for me to drop krb4 support in
Heimdal (first in bug #315059 and now by upstream in bug #334632 - it
would also solve #236851). It would also eliminate confusion such as
in bug #330151 (not a bug).

Would this effect anybody? Would this break anything?

I noted when I was experimenting with openafs last I couldn't get it
to work without krb4 support in Heimdal KDC, but admit I may have been
doing something wrong.

krb4 is generally considered obsolete and insecure - I think the only
reason it was requested was because of AFS requirements - does that
reason still apply?

Thanks.
-- 
Brian May <bam@debian.org>


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