> We're losing sight of the key issue here. We *cannot* use their > trademark under their current trademark policy. They are offering us a > deal that is Debian specific to allow use to use the marks. Can we > accept such a deal as a project? Does the DFSG allow us to? Well said. IMHO, no. DFSG #8 -- witch is part of the SC, IIRC -- forbids us to have rights that our users don't have. -- HTH, Massa