> Sorry, Pierre, for hijacking your post into this direction, this > rather affects all the projects involved, not only KDE-QT. you have not to be sorry. it's only that every time someone says ubuntu does not collaborate "enough" there is someboty to shout : http://people.ubuntu.com/~scott/patches/. I used example from my experience (and also QT-KDE), but I didn't want my mail be only about KDE/QT packaging. I only wanted to say that this url isn't usable at all as soon as the packages are big, which OTOH are often the package that would benefit the most of any form of cooperation. If you want my personnal opinion wrt debian<->ubuntu : * there are some DD with pride that won't go themselves to Ubuntu ones because .. you know ubuntu crew "is just a bunch of nasty forkers" or just because they think that since unbuntu inherits so much work from debian, it's up to the ubuntu crew to take the first step (and maybe those are not completely wrong ) * OTOH, some ubuntu developper are not very talkative, and as DDs we never hear from their work, and when you go talk to them, the answer is "if I do sth important for your debs, you'll know it" and then, it's the total radio silence. And I won't talk about those that believe that because the DD that maintain the debs in Debian needs 3 days to answer a mail he is MIA ... (ok, that paragraph is exaggerated, but I guess you see the idea behind) The point is, to me, it feels like both "worlds" are waiting for the other to make the things be smooth. I really believe in full cooperation too. Not that long ago, the KDE team had nearly less DD's than non-DD in it (part of the team was in NM queue). I don't see why Ubuntu people would'nt be part of the debian teams, help to the packaging and BTS BSP, and maintain their ubuntu diffs in the same structure (alioth svn/arch/cvs repo) talking with the same tools (alioth maillist), ... The thing is, I just read on kubuntu.org that they already have 3.4.1 packages ready and uploaded, that they are preparing the gcc-4.0 transition, ... nice... I never saw anything like this on our lists, and we will have to go through the same road... but this has not been discussed ... I'm even not sure the migration will be debian-gcc-4-compatible. <:bitterness:> -- ·O· Pierre Habouzit ··O madcoder@debian.org OOO http://www.madism.org
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