Re: Status of PHP5?
On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 10:56:52 +0200, Martin Geisler wrote:
> Romain Francoise <email@example.com> writes:
>> Debian has more than 900 developers, a minimum amount of cooperation
>> is necessary...
> May I then ask why the maintainers of PHP4 hasn't joined the
> discussion? I think it would be important that they explain their
> reasons for not having packaged PHP5 yet.
Probably because they were busy at conferences, or managing the sarge
> Adam Conrad wrote in August 2004 that the PHP5 packages would be
> uploaded soon, but that they had taken a backseat to PHP4 packages and
> the Sarge release.
Yes, as Adam has repeatedly stated, he will work on php5 post-sarge.
Considering the constant headaches that php4 provides, I can't blame him.
> These are honest questions:
> * Do the PHP4 maintainers find PHP5 too buggy for inclusion in Debian?
Yes. Hell, I consider php4 too buggy for Debian. php5 is even worse.
Have you seen the changelog? These are not minor little bugs that are
> * Do they lack the time to maintain PHP5?
I seriously doubt it, but why expend the extra effort when a) it's not
going to make it into sarge, b) the version of php that *will* be in sarge
could still use more attention, and c) early versions of php5 are expected
to be unstable.
> I can understand that they want things "done right", but please, six
> months is a long time. An update on the situation would be very much
The proper place for php5 right now (imo) is in experimental. I don't
speak for any of the other php maintainers, of course; but personally if
feel it's a waste of time to deal w/ it right now, time that could be
better spent fixing other bugs in Debian.