Re: Bits (Nybbles?) from the Vancouver release team meeting
Thiemo Seufer wrote:
Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
* Thiemo Seufer
| For anyone who uses Debian as base of a commercial solution it is a
| requirement. Grabing some random unstable snapshot is a non-starter.
You do realise this is exactly what Ubuntu is doing? (Grab «random»
The "stabilise" is the missing part in the proposal. Stabilization and
security would need to be done outside Debian.
From the announcement:
Architectures that are no longer being considered for stable releases
are not going to be left out in the cold. The SCC infrastructure is
intended as a long-term option for these other architectures, and the
ftpmasters also intend to provide porter teams with the option of
releasing periodic (or not-so-periodic) per-architecture snapshots of
What that actually means is that when porters want to stabilise, they'll
be able to simply stop autobuilding unstable, fix any remaining problems
that are a major concern, and request a snapshot be done. That'll result
in a new "snapshot-20050732/main/binary-foo" tree matching the work in
unstable and a corresponding source tree; at which point CDs/DVDs can be
burnt from the snapshot, and unstable development can continue. That
tree will persist for a while, depending on how much archive space it
That means that porters will have to do their own security and release
work, rather than relying on the primary security and release teams.
That's a serious amount
of work, likely to be multiplied several times because there's no
release candidate to collect it in one place.
And yes, it's a serious amount of work already, which is why the
security and release teams want to stop having to do it :)