Hi Martin, On Mon, Mar 14, 2005 at 12:18:33PM +0000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Tollef Fog Heen <tfheen@err.no> [2005-03-14 13:10]: > > | I have yet to see a proposal how to do multiarch in the right way. > > What is lacking in the proposals out there? > The following is what I (as DPL) sent to the release people in January > to get them to discuss these issues. I didn't post this to a list > because what I wrote is kinda rough and I wanted the release people to > clarify and post it. Since this hasn't happened yet, I might just as > well post my original message. But please note that some important > things might be missing in it. > Basically, there has been a lot of discussions about multi-arch and > some people seem to think that after sarge we'll _obviously_ move to > multi-arch. Well, this is not so obvious to me. In particular, I see > no consensus among ftpmaster/archive people, release people, toolchain > people, porters, and basically everyone else that this is the way to > go. If we decide to go with multi-arch, we need: > - agreement of all these people > - a _clear_ plan about this migration (and have this plan before > sarge is out), including a clear timeplan (announcement on day X, > maintainers have Y months to upload, if they don't do it in Y > months, we'll have a time of Z people who'll NMU the packages by > G). > - a proof of concept (this may exist already) > - agreement with some upstream LSB people that it's a good idea for > Debian to pioneer this in the hope that others will follow suite > (rather than a way of Debian to make itself incompatible with > the rest of the world). [Chris Yeoh and taggart are the people > to talk to.] > There may be a few other things missing, but basically the multi-arch > people have to show a clear plan _now_ how and why this migration is > supposed to happen. Yes, although nothing's made it to the list yet about this (was going to start a separate thread for that this week, actually), I have had conversations with Tollef, Matt (Taggart) and the ftp-masters about multiarch to get a handle on what the issues are. It seems that we do have a basic proof-of-concept (Tollef's link), but neither the LSB folks nor the ftp-masters are sold on the idea yet; the ftp-masters seem to think there have been too many, mutually incompatible proposals floating around. Having basic support for multiarch in glibc/dpkg/toolchain seems sound, but actually using it in Debian packages for etch seems to hinge on the other concerns above. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer
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