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Re: "The Debian exim 4 packages suck badly" on exim-users@exim.org

On Thu, 2005-02-17 at 16:36 +0100, Marc Haber wrote:
[...let's all get along outside Debian please snippage...]
> Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote on
> exim-users@exim.org:
> >To: Marc Haber <mh+exim-users@zugschlus.de>
> >From: Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk>
> >Sender: exim-users-bounces@exim.org
> >Cc: exim-users@exim.org
> >
> >Marc Haber writes ("Re: Bug#276126: [exim] allow headers_remove|add options to be given 	multiple times"):
> >> I am pretty well aware that Debian is unpopular with exim upstream
> >> [...]
> >
> >Debian is rightly unpopular with Exim upstream because the Debian
> >Exim4 packages have a vastly overcomplicated and buggy configuration
> >generator which causes hassle upstream, and because the Debian Exim
> >maintainers have badly managed the communications with upstream.

Debian is unpopular Many places where Debian has changed the "globbed"
config. Many people HATE little bitty files to make things work. Me,
best thing since Sliced Bread. Except I'd rather see --keepcomments as
default and changed to --removecomments. My only gripe, pretty minimal.

> Other readers, please take a look at #295391 before participating in
> the flamewar.

I for one would LOVE to see Ian produce an exim4 configurator... why not
make one for Webmin. The current thing in Webmin only does monitoring.

That way, it COULD be use standalone (with a wrapper) or with Webmin.

Or Ian, could just look at this configuration setup as a way to keep
Hosting Providers happy as dropping a file into routers, basically can
setup a whole virtual domain. I use it that way. Best part is when they
leave, remove the router and they are gone. I also have split up configs
for other mail apps and Webservers, domain specific [PHP|Perl|
Pyhton]/[pgsql|mysql] settings for Apache too. Drop the file in the
right spot... voila all done.

If you cannot see how making it bigtime massive sitehosting friendly...
is a bad thing at all. You *DO* have an option to just use the Bigfile
anytime... make sure the the file /etc/exim4/exim.conf is there and not
a symlink.
greg, greg@gregfolkert.net

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