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Re: Ignoring the truth or Hiding problems? (was: Are mails sent to xxxx <at> buildd.debian.org sent to /dev/null ?)

On Wed, Jan 05, 2005 at 07:30:32AM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 04, 2005 at 02:59:29PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:

> > > Please note that year 2005 has come to an end and 
> > > the year 2005 is now  -  even in my mail address!
> > Does the new address bring with it a more constructive attitude towards
> > volunteers who have contributed countless hours over the years to keeping
> > this project running, or should I plan to killfile this one as well?

> So you decided to play a "my volunteer work is worth more than your
> volunteer work" game?

I said nothing of my own volunteer work, which pales in comparison to that
of many.  Nor was I making any judgement about the relative worth of your
volunteer contributions compared to those of anyone else -- only about the
historically destructive effect of your mailing list contributions, which
offset the value of an awful lot of volunteer hours, and more yet if I allow
myself to be dragged down by them.

The "us versus them" pitting of volunteer contributions against each other
appears to be your game alone, and is precisely the sort of thing that led
me to killfile you in the first place.

But it's a new year, and you have a new email address, and I'm an eternal
optimist -- so as it seems to be on-point for this thread, I ask you instead
of assuming: is there any hope that you'll participate constructively in the
project lists in the year to come, or are you still so twisted up inside over
past slights, real or perceived, that you refuse to treat developers such as
James Troup, who has indeed contributed "countless hours" to Debian over the
years, with a minimum of respect and human decency?  If all you have to
contribute for this year is more harping about Debian's deficiencies and
issuing of ultimatums, then I might at least save myself the time of reading,
don't you think?

Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

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