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Re: Bug#224742: Related to this issue...



On Thu, Jan 01, 2004 at 04:59:42PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 31, 2003 at 04:37:50PM +0000, Colin Watson wrote:
> > However, I just spotted that aj's left a note in the config file
> > explaining why the control ban was set and until when, which works for
> > me. So I retract my earlier comment.
> 
> Has this been done for all the currently defined values of the
> @gFuckHeads array?

Yes.

> > > Should Mr. Towns's administrative privileges with the Debian BTS be
> > > revoked for, say, a month or so, to give him time to consider how to
> > > better work as a member of an administrative *team*?
> > 
> > Frankly, I don't think that attempting to stir up strife among the
> > members of an administrative team (noting your Cc) is going to impress
> > anyone. As debating tactics go, it seems underhanded to me.
> 
> I am neither attempting to foment strife among the administrative team,
> nor indulging in debating tactics.
> 
> I am proposing a process for internal disciplinary action within the
> team and suggesting a circumstance under which it might be applied.
> You'll note my suggestion was phrased in the form of a question.  I will
> infer from your response that your answer to that question is "no".

I see; I apologize for the misunderstanding, then. (I took your question
to be rhetorical.)

Were I to have a problem with a co-member of a team, I would find it
much more pleasant, and probably more long-term productive, to resolve
that problem by talking to them rather than by speaking of disciplinary
actions as a first resort. Since I try to stay on at least speaking
terms with people I routinely work with, this has never been a big deal.

> You have every right to feel that any or all members of the BTS
> administration team are capable of no wrong, and therefore no procedures
> are necessary for correcting such wrongs.

I take it that you're constructing the most extreme possible view; for
the record, the premise isn't the only one that can be used to construct
the conclusion. Another one, for instance, is "let's cross that bridge
if we come to it".

I generally find writing procedures before finding problems meriting
their application not to my taste, and more likely itself to cause
problems of morale than not. I guess this makes me a liberal. :-)

Cheers,

-- 
Colin Watson                                  [cjwatson@flatline.org.uk]



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