On Tue, Dec 14, 2004 at 08:43:37AM +1100, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 07:50:02PM +0000, Andrew Suffield wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2004 at 11:21:54AM -0800, Bruce Perens wrote: > > > My surmise is that we'd need an effort like that, raising $250K, to > > > design and go to full-custom fabrication of an FPLA with fully-open > > > design. > > > > Mine is that one can get useful things done without having to spend > > ridiculous amounts of money, or even any money at all. Yours is that > > you can't. Debian proves you wrong every day. > > > > There is absolutely no reason why any money is needed for this. Design > > the damn thing. Somebody will want to produce it. Manufacturing > > companies would *leap* at the opportunity to make widely desireable > > chips with zero royalty costs. > > Manufacturing an ASIC involves NRE (non-recurring engineering) costs > of hundreds of thousands to millions per revision. A manufacturing > company is going to need to see a pretty good market before they > invest that in an open design. Manufacturing an operating system involves NRE costs of hundreds of thousands to millions per revision. Oh, wait. Actually, that's just *one* way of doing it. And yet you're quoting Redmond propaganda as if it were the only truth. -- .''`. ** Debian GNU/Linux ** | Andrew Suffield : :' : http://www.debian.org/ | `. `' | `- -><- |
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