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Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

* Manoj Srivastava (srivasta@debian.org) wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Dec 2004 19:43:19 -0500, Stephen Frost <sfrost@snowman.net> said: 
> > Stern, from my understanding, was broadcasting such language on the
> > public airwaves.  Do you have an example of a company being
> > prosecuted for distributing CDs, or providing access over the
> > internet which contains such content, to minors?
> 	No, but I have no such data for companies giving out CD's with
>  programs like hot-babe either. In my eyes, one is as likely as the
>  other, they are both offensive material unsuited for minors.

In my view, hot-babe is more likely than the Linux kernel but I do feel
it's a borderline case.  Perhaps it doesn't justify modifying our SC or
what-have-you but I don't particularly like the idea of waiting till
someone wants to package goatse.cx or child pornogrophy or something 
which would cause us problems to clarify our position on it.

> > I have to admit that I wasn't very successful finding examples of
> > website owners being prosecuted for distributing pornogrophy.  I'm
> 	It is big business, from all reports.

Sure, though I'm not sure what that has to do w/ this.

> > guessing I wasn't looking in the right places or perhaps they just
> > tend to be threatened since I know there have been changes in that
> > industry (click-through age statements and whatnot) over the past
> > couple years.
> 	But there are quite a lot of unsuitable material even before
>  asking for credit cards for proof of age or even a simple click
>  through (what 13 year old would be stopped by that? I sure as heck
>  would not have when I was younger)

I suspect the issue isn't if an unsupervised 13 year old would be
stopped by it or not, otherwise I don't think we'd see the proliferation
of those click-through's that we (or at least, I) do.  The other
question is if those servers are hosted in the US or not, since that's
where master is.  Even so though, what we need to make a decision is a
few example cases where those sites have been prosecuted, not examples
of where they havn't (since, after all, the FBI or whomever could be
working to go after those soon or whatever).  Though, the cases should
be reasonably recent too, of course..


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