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Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 15:42, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 14:01:08 -0600, Joe Wreschnig <piman@debian.org> said: 
> > On Tue, 2004-11-30 at 13:26, Eric Lavarde wrote:
> >> Hi again,
> >> 
> >> perhaps to bring down the conversation to something more
> >> constructive, I think we should base decision to have something or
> >> not in Debian:
> >> 1. _NOT_ on personal belief (else we would probably end with
> >>    nothing).
> > Agreed.
> >> 2. _NOT_ on local laws (same comment).
> > Disagreed. If Debian is illegal to distribute to some important
> > section of people in the world, because we include strange
> > noncritical bits of software (hotbabe, the bible), then we have a
> > real problem.
> 	In that portion of the world, sure. DSebian should continue to
>  practice freedom, and hope that those portions of the world get
>  better in time.

But by this logic, Debian should include every bit of software it can --
if those countries with pesky copyright laws won't let us distribute it
there, then we hope that portion of the world gets better in time.
Debian will continue to practice freedom.

Of course, that's stupid. We need to decide what statutes if any this
program could violate if distributed, and if the risks of
alienating/denying that portion of users (in this case, people under
18/21 in various countries Debian is currently "ok" in) are worth it.

The feeling I get from the thread so far is that most developers don't
consider this pornography, and so okay to distribute to minors. Or
alternately, if it is, then we don't care about blocking distribution of
Debian to people in the affected countries because they have bigger
problems. Fine, then I have no problem including it, though I will
lament the continual archive bloat for Yet Another System Monitor.

(The other feeling I get is that most developers are unable to consider
this question without flaming one or more of religion, the US, or
natural human instinct to engage in sexual activity.)
Joe Wreschnig <piman@debian.org>

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