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Re: Bug#283578: ITP: hot-babe -- erotic graphical system activity monitor

On Wed, 1 Dec 2004 17:34:34 +0100
Michelle Konzack <linux4michelle@freenet.de> wrote:

> Am 2004-11-30 00:31:57, schrieb Thibaut VARENE:
> > Package: wnpp
> > Severity: wishlist
> > 
> > * Package name    : hot-babe
> >   Description     : a rather erotic graphical system activity monitor
> > 
> >   hot-babe is a small graphical utility which display the system
> >   activity in a very special way. When the CPU is idle, it displays a
> >   dressed girl, and when the activity goes up, as the temperature
> >   increases, the girl begins to undress to finish totally naked when
> >   the system activity reaches 100%.
> >   Of course, if you can be shocked by nudity, don't use it!
> Sorry, but in some countries there is pornography
> and nudity illegal. Like arabian and persian countries. 

This is neither nudity nor pornography, this is a cartoon picture.

I won't comment on the "like arabian and persian countries" which is vague
enough to be easily taken down.

> So I think, it is not a realy good idea to includer
> "hot-babe" in the Debian main stream.
> I do not like to go to prison in Iran or may be killed
> because I have such application on one of my Desktops. 

Then don't install it.

What you are doing here has a name: it is "spreading FUD". No one is going
to get killed because of that software, what you are saying here is very
dangerous and rude.

If you are not confident enough with your english level, i suggest you
check your wording in a dictionary. This program can _at most_ be
qualified as being "erotic", certainly not "pornographic".

Now unless someone from d-legal stands up and explains me with _valid
arguments_ that this program cannot be included in Debian, I'll consider
any further mails such as this one as void.

There have been threads and flames in the past about various programs
being part of Debian (such as dopewar) and they have proven to be moot
points most of the time. What goes in Debian is decided according to the
Debian Policy, and the DFSG.

This program is fully DFSG-compliant. As for the "local law policy",
unless i'm very wrong, Debian already provides software which is "illegal"
in some countries (such as cryptographic software). This has never been a
problem, hopefully, otherwise Debian lawyers would have a very hard time
checking all countries (that's a few hundreds, iirc) local laws, and we
would end with not much being in the Debian archive.

The Debian archive provides a set of packages, a collection of open source
software that you can find on the Internet anyway. You are supposed to
pick up in that collection whatever you want/need. Nothing forces you to
install something you don't want/dislike, you are supposed to act like a
grown up, after all.

Please don't mix your own opinions with a more general debate. You are
free to dislike that piece of software, but you cannot spread FUD to
illustrate your ideas.

Thibaut VARENE
The PA/Linux ESIEE Team

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