Re: Ubuntu discussion at planet.debian.org
On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 13:48:25 +0200, Jérôme Marant <jmarant@free.fr> said:
> Selon Martin Schulze <joey@infodrom.org>:
>> I'm thankful you're taking the discussion to this list, where
>> probably more people will be able participate as well.
> I hope so.
> [...]
>> > Some improvements have already been proposed by Eduard Bloch and
>> > Adrian Bunk: freezing unstable while keeping testing.
>>
>> It may pose a problem that development in unstable usually
>> continues while testing is frozen and only important bugs should be
>> fixed.
>>
>> However, if unstable would be frozen at the same time, would
>> development stop? Probably not. I'm pretty sure that several
>> would start with separate repositories and the like to make more
>> recent versions of the software available which they maintain.
> I think it would be marginal. After all, the experimental
> distribution does exit for this purpose and nonetheless, people do
> not neglect unstable.
I do not think you understand what the experimental
distribution is, and how it is different from unstable, if you can
say that. (not a full distribution, contains truly volatile packages,
not supported by buildd's, for a start).
>> We must not forget the focus on fixing the frozen distribution and
>> making it ready, though.
>>
>> > Freezing unstable forces people to work on fixing bugs, and the
>> > quicker the bugs are fixed, the quicker the distribution is
>> > released and the quicker Debian people can start working on on
>> > the next release.
>>
>> Freezeing unstable forces people not to do development in unstable.
>> It won't force people to fix bugs and the like. Closing a motorway
>> won't stop people from driving (too) fast, it would stop people
>> from using the motorway for driving (too) fast instead.
> Before "testing", the RM used to freeze unstable and people were
> working on fixing bugs. There were pretest cycles with bug horizons,
Not true. People were mostly twiddling their thumbs. Only a
small subset of people can actually help in fixing RC bugs.
> and freezes were shorter. Of course, without "testing",
> synchronizing arches was a pain, that's why I'd say let's combine
> both.
> Instead of always telling than a given idea won't work, let's try it
> and conclude afterwards.
We have tried the whole freezing route. But feel free to try
it out (like aj did Testing), and tell us how it would have worked.
manoj
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