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Re: about volatile.d.o/n



On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 04:37:14PM +0100, paddy wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 10:43:05AM -0400, Stephen Gran wrote:
> > This one time, at band camp, Kevin Mark said:
> > > On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 11:00:51AM +0200, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Oct 09, 2004 at 03:01:11AM -0400, Kevin Mark wrote:
> > > > > Packages like virus checkers seem to be
> > > > > composed of 2 parts: the app program and the data where the data in
> > > > > this case are virus sigs and the app is say clamav. And the 'volitile'
> > > > > part is the virus sigs whereas the app (once it hits stable) shouldnt
> > > > > change unless it warrents a 'security' update. So, volitile should be
> > > > > for the data/virus sigs that need updating when new bugs hit the 'net.
> > > > 
> > > > No, often such kind of programs need engine update. That's true for
> > > > both AV and antispam programs as well.
> > > > 
> > > Hi Francesco,
> > > so:
> > > the program = engine part + (some un-named part) ???
> > > and the engine part and the data part are volitile
> > 
> <snip>
> > 
> > Right now, it is easy enough to get new data sets - the clamav suite
> > inculdes an updater for it's data, and spamassassin is easy to add new
> > rules to.  The problem is updating the engine in a stable release.
> 
> Indeed, there is a consensus that data updates with the volatility 
> of, say, virus scanner sigs belong firmly out-of-band.

Hi Paddy,
so that leaves libs and frontends (at least for clamav)
but I thought the ideas was to protect against virus threats?

if its out-of-band (not in debian control) than the only thing that
would seem reasonable is to convert between any new data format and the
data format used in stable.

current stable=
no changes to package = stable system with security left to user

with volitile=backport data format= 
stable system with some new data to improve security somewhat

with volitile=backport lib, frontends,data?=
possible unstable system with possibly up-to-data security

Dont take the above as anything other than my overexagerated guess.
I'm just thinking it through to see if I can squeeze this into me wee
brain!
-Kev
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