Op di 01-06-2004, om 02:11 schreef Nathanael Nerode: > Wouter Verhelst wrote: > >Please, try not to give such black-and-white responses. There's a world > >of difference between "merging non-free right into main" and "ensuring a > >driver, which requires non-free firmware to be loaded, works, instead of > >just throwing the driver and the firmware entirely out of Debian, and > >telling users that they're unlucky, and that they should've bought free > >hardware, ha ha". > > Please come up with a meaningful difference between putting non-free > peripheral software needed only for a few rare pieces of hardware (the actual > case with the tg3 driver) into 'main', and putting any other piece of > non-free software in 'main'. I'm not suggesting keeping the non-free firmware in main indefinately. I'm suggesting to make sure that * the non-free firmware actually is available in the non-free archive * in a form such that it can be easily used * and that the kernel package warns a user that their hardware will stop working if they install the new package unless they install this and that package from the non-free archive. *before* throwing it out of main. That's not just limited to the tg3 driver; that's how I'd want everything to work. > "Lost Trust" is a good title; I don't trust most Debian Developers to follow > the Social Contract any more. you forgot to apply s/the Social Contract/my interpretation of &/ to the above sentence. Which is fair enough. -- EARTH smog | bricks AIR -- mud -- FIRE soda water | tequila WATER -- with thanks to fortune
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