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Re: Bug#133578: gdm bug #133578. Intend to NMU.

On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 09:49:57AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:
> We talked about whether a maintainer is entitled to
> refuse after more than a year a bug

He's not "refusing the bug", whatever that means. He's refusing a fix
which he thinks isn't.

> and then you questioned the importance of the bug by claiming that
> Debian is an English-speaking project -- we dont care, we talk about
> Debian an OS here.
> Vince now explain that the bug is not critical: wonderful, but where
> did he found someone saying that this bug is critical? Nobody is
> claiming that this bug is critical. This bug is annoying, nothing
> more. 

If the bug is just "annoying", then why am I seeing an endless thread
about it on -devel? It seems to me it's more than just "annoying" for
some people.

> But a annoying bug should not be left for two years while harmless
> fixes exists.

Stop this assertion. Ryan Murray, the maintainer of gdm, has stated
numerous times that he does not think the fix is harmless. As the
maintainer of the gdm package, his opinion on that matter counts more
than yours, unless you get the tech committee to follow you (which I
think is highly unlikely BTW, but perhaps that's just me).

Nobody is challenging that the bug has been outstanding for a long time,
that it is annoying, or that it should be fixed.

> That's the point. And the fact that the Debian project is
> English-speaking or the fact that the bug is not critical does not
> really matters.

Actually, it does. There are far more interesting and complicated bugs
that deserve a lot more attention than this senseless discourse. Also,
before Sarge, Debian has never supported l10n in a default install as
well as it will now. Indeed, the default gdm installation isn't ready
yet -- so what? The fix is easy, for a sysadmin:

--- gdm.orig    2004-04-26 10:19:25.000000000 +0200
+++ gdm 2003-10-02 09:05:50.000000000 +0200
@@ -19,6 +19,7 @@
+export LANG=nl_BE.UTF-8
 if [ -e $UPGRADEFILE -a "$1" != "restart" -a "$1" != "force-reload" ];
        SSD_ARG="--startas $DAEMON"

Of course, he might want to use his language of choice instead of mine.

Add this to the release notes, or put up a FAQ somewhere, and deal with
it. Is it really that hard?

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