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Re: Bug#219582: ITP: linux -- Linux 2.4 kernel

On Tue, Nov 11, 2003 at 02:17:10PM +0100, Eike Sauer wrote:
> Robert Millan schrieb:
> > I don't see why. I have a bunch of resources to find a solution for this
> > trivial bug.
> You are implying the other DDs are your ressource for finding
> what you are calling "trivial bugs". They are not. It's your
> duty to think of most of it beforehand.
> If you didn't want to imply that: Which ressources do you have?
> Why did you not already use them?

I didn't want to imply that. I was referring to general packaging resources
like preinst script, debconf, etc.

(Actualy, I explained some possible ways to solve this in response to Colin.
Then Jamie added other possibilities, like using init.d scripts or an
update-kernel script)

> > I'm not suitable because my package has a trivial bug? Sorry, but you're
> > not entitled to put my skills in question.
> Straight question, straight answer: 
> Did you think about system.map at all?

Yes. I decided to not provide it and investigate later wether it was worth
providing or not.

> > Is getting wchan displayable a reason to solve the System.map issue? If it
> > is, I'll solve it. But I haven't seen anyone explaining what is wchan
> > useful for at all. 
> It's not our duty to explain why we want feature A or B.
> If your are going to provide a new style of packaging something,
> it's your duty do do it at least as well as the old style
> and to preserve ALL features, no matter how useful you
> find them personally.

Agreed. But the discussion on system.map started with someone claiming the
bug implied either a dessign problem in my package or that I'm incompetent.

> > My amount of thought and consideration will apply when I get bug reports
> > through the BTS. 
> That's too late for thoughts.
> You are telling us: 
> I'll throw this package in Debian,
> I don't care about features I don't use,
> if anybody does, he should file a bug report.
> That's not what I'd call thorough working.

That's not exact. I do care about features even if I don't use them, what I
dislike is discussing things in this ITP that actualy belong to the BTS.

> > Which brings back the question on wether you're looking for bugs on
> > purpose just for the sake of trolling.
> YOU are the one who should look for bugs (on purpose!) before.

Yes, but not in order to feed a discussion like this one.

> All those people do this to help you seeing the difficulties
> in your project. It's meant to help you.

Probably most of them, but not all.

Robert Millan

"[..] but the delight and pride of Aule is in the deed of making, and in the
thing made, and neither in possession nor in his own mastery; wherefore he
gives and hoards not, and is free from care, passing ever on to some new work."

 -- J.R.R.T, Ainulindale (Silmarillion)

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