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Re: Grsec/PaX and Exec-shield

On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 07:51:52PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mar 04/11/2003 à 16:56, spender@grsecurity.net a écrit :
> > Also, I think both you and Ingo will be interested to see the results of 
> > a bugfixed version of paxtest.  Are you so certain that Exec-shield 
> > stops execution in shared library bss/data?  Or did you just say it 
> > because that's what a program told you?  Do you want to change your 
> > answer before it's released?  Or can you tell me why Exec-shield will 
> > prevent execution in those areas?  If you can tell my why, I'll be sure 
> > to tell you why it doesn't, and why it's impossible for it to.
> Give us facts. Are you advertising the latest Windows 2012 server
> software before it is written, or discussing about computer security?

Nah, he just tries to imitate Theo.  Unfortunately, he misses some elements -
clue, taste and understanding of the difference between arguments and
handwaving.  Working in that area can make one an asshole; however, being
an asshole does not qualify for such work...

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