BTW, another point is that the original layout is a fairly unique part of rogue culture, and shipping with it turned off seems a bit like using graphical tiles by default, or having emacs start up in wordpad- compatibility mode -- one can perhaps understand the appeal for the rawest of newbies, but it's the sort of homogenization that I'd rather resist. -Miles -- Ich bin ein Virus. Mach' mit und kopiere mich in Deine .signature.