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Re: tmda: Challenge-response is fundamentally broken



On Wed, Aug 27, 2003 at 04:07:58PM +0300, Kalle Kivimaa wrote:
> Mark Brown <broonie@sirena.org.uk> writes:

> > You do realise that all parts of SMTP are generally completely
> > unauthenticated and can be trivially forged?  A system like this has no
> > option but to work with unauthenticated data.

> Why cannot the C-R system issue the challenge during the SMTP session
> (respond with a reject containing the challenge)? With the latest
> Sobig flood I've begun to consider all list software sending back

The part where SMTP is completely unauthenticated means that this
doesn't help - the SMTP envelope sender can be forged just as easily as
the From: inside the message.

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