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Re: Bug#193497: marked as done (svtools: svsetup uses bashism "echo -e")

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On Thu, Jun 05, 2003 at 11:26:49AM +0200, Mathieu Roy wrote:

> Matt Zimmerman <mdz@debian.org> a tapot? :
> > Debian policy is not a code of laws; I was using 'legislate'
> > metaphorically.
> > 
> > "Good sense" in this case has to do with the quality of one's work
> > regarding a volunteer effort.  If you do not believe in this idea, then
> > I doubt your hand could be forced by a document.
> If a document exist and say "well, most people here think things should be
> done that way for these reasons", it defines the "common sense". 
> Until such a document exists, it's possible to argue that this "common
> sense" is not really "common".

One can argue all he wants, but it is not possible to force a volunteer to
do a good job, to take pride in his work, regardless of what is written in
which document.

> When you legislate, you often define in which way a work should be done
> for the benefit of everybody. The debian policy is somehow a code of laws,
> defining how things should done theorically. And it seems to me that
> debian people all agreed to try to conform to this code of laws once they
> applied.

See the section in policy which describes its scope, and the rationale,
which I quoted earlier in this thread.

> Examples from the policy:
> 2.1.4 The non-free section
> [...]
> It's a rule, isn't it? A law. If people disregard this rule, main would
> be chaos. 

If that rule is not met, it technical problems with the distribution and
puts many different people at legal risk.

> 5.3 debian/changelog
> [...]
> Same here.

If that rule is not met, basic tools for building packages may fail to work.

> To get things done in a coherent way, sometimes it's needed to write down
> exactly what is truly expected by most people.

Do you see the difference between these technical rules and a notion of best
practice, good sense or quality of work?

 - mdz

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