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Re: Bits from the RM: Help Wanted, Apply Within



On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 01:53:02AM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 09:51:13PM +0100, Michael Bramer wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 08, 2003 at 04:13:06AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > 	* What other major release goals are still possible at this point?
> > > 	  How much of the translation project can be properly integrated?
> > > 	  Do we have other installation problems to address beyond just
> > > 	  debian-installer (eg, tasks, base-config, flavours, broken
> > > 	  package installs and upgrades, etc)? Are there any other
> > 
> > some comments about i18n:
> >  - translated package description: 
> (...)
> >    This all should be included in the sarge release. 
> >  
> >  - debconf template translation:
> (...)
> >    include in sarge, but we should now wait for this task. 
> 
> I'm sorry but I don't agree here. There are higher priority goals
> that IMHO should be done before release. Some other things were proposed
> release goals for sarge when we released woody, such as having full
> non-interactive installation (i.e. use debconf in those packages that don't
> yet use it).

stop, IMHO you don't understand what I write
 1.) I don't say, that we don't have priority goals
 2.) we can do things in parallel (and not 'before release')

> However, translation shouldn't be a release goal _unless_ we can
> guarantee that all languages will be in a releasable state. And, sorry,
> that's not only one language, but all the languages we are going to
> "officially" support for sarge. [1]

I don't write that any translation should hold up release!

I only like to include a new apt with translation _support_ in sarge. Not
more and not less. And this version is nearly ready. Some test, a real
upload from the apt maintainer and some days in sid... 

This will not hold up the release any day. We don't have a frozen day
for the base system. Don't panic. 

> Even if we have always made a best-effort regarding translations, it has

Have we?

> never been the case that translations (for documentation, installation,
> etc.) have hold up release. If we wish to change this for sarge then it
> should be discussed openly.



Gruss
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