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Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?



On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 08:50:32PM +1100, Andrew Lau wrote:
> 	Whenever someone rants about Gentoo's processor optimisations
> and states some overinflated performance boost such as 10%-20%, all I
> can do is make a a feeble rebuttal stating that it's more like (insert
> low figure without much solid evidence - e.g.. 5%) with exceptions
> such as glibc, X, multimedia applications, mozilla and OpenOffice. So
> then they counter that it's still an increase.

Well, the lesson here is to not make up figures -- ask them instead what
they've based *their* figures on.  Given the resistance within Debian to
distributing optimized binaries, I suspect that even 5% is an
overestimation, as this would be a pretty serious savings over the
lifetime of a computer.

If they have real figures showing this savings, that would be a powerful
tool for persuading Debian to make more use of optimization.

> Ok, so what strengths does Debian have to make a comeback with? Unlike
> Gentoo, Debian has quality assurance and security teams. We have a
> strict policy and bug resolution procedures. But they won't listen and
> still say Gentoo.

<shrug> Then they deserve what they get?

-- 
Steve Langasek
postmodern programmer

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