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Re: Bug#167921: ITP: httrack -- offline browser : copy websites toyour computer

>>"Steve" == Steve Langasek <vorlon@netexpress.net> writes:

 Steve> On Sat, Nov 09, 2002 at 11:45:21AM -0500, David D.W. Downey wrote:
 >> Why should it matter if another package provides the same services. maybe
 >> people don't wnat to use that particular package?
 >> If the guy wants to packge it up and maintian it, let him. Unless someone
 >> can find a specific reason that that particular software package should not
 >> be included (and just because another software package provides the same
 >> functionality is *not* a good reason), ther eshould be no problem.

 Steve> If "we've already got one of those" isn't enough reason to
 Steve> object to packaging a piece of software, pray, what is?

	I certainly do not think that is a good enough reason,
 no. Please interject your own emacs vs vi flame here. (Like, we
 already had an editor in ed).

 Steve> Debian contains more software than any other operating system
 Steve> I know of.  This is good, in that it ensures the software you
 Steve> need is always at your fingertips; but it's also bad, in that
 Steve> it makes it more difficult to sort out what software is
 Steve> actually *useful*, and what software we have packages for
 Steve> because it seemed like a good idea at the time.  We have a
 Steve> certain responsibility to be *discriminating* in our
 Steve> packaging, in order to create an operating system of quality,
 Steve> not just of quantity.

	quite. But merely because we already have one of those is not
 enough, as you have already argued: the one we have may be inferior,
 it may not be as flexible or scalable; the new package, though not as
 functional may grow to be better by better intrinsic design.

 Steve> The question "why do we need another one?" should always be
 Steve> asked, and unless there are problems with the functionality
 Steve> provided by the existing package, "I don't want to use that
 Steve> one" is a piss-poor excuse for expanding the archive.

	I strongly disagree. It is the best reason for expanding the
 archive: at least oneperson has had an itch to scratch despite the
 existence of a perfectly working alternative (for most people windows
 works well enough, for the rest there are the bsd's, who the hell
 needs Linux? And who the hell needs anything more than Red Hat and

	Alternatives, parrallel paths for exploring solutions, lead to
 innovation. Artificially limiting on the basis of seniority is the
 piss poor mechanism.

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 to laugh because the apes beat him to it by about a million years.
 Struggle to become a parrot or something. Jack Handley, The New
 Mexican, 1988.
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